Unfortunately, we live in a society where it is not appropriate to wear your comfy pajamas to a job interview (even if they have cute puppies on them). So what is a college student with a closet full of sweatpants supposed to do? In this episode, Jerry, Clara, and McKinley will discuss etiquette when you meet an employer in person and dress to impress. Stay until the end for a famous Career Center dad joke!
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McKinley Hatch
Welcome to Career Cafe, a podcast to help you thrive in the professional world. Listeners, welcome to our podcast episode on The Power of First Impressions, Dressing for Success and Reimagining Handshakes in a post-COVID World. Joining us today, we have Jerry Ross, Clara Webster and Brandon Street and myself, the moderator, McKinley Hatch. And let's just start off talking about the importance of dressing for a success and why that is so crucial in the job search process and interview process.
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Brandon Street
Yeah, I think this is an important topic because the way that we dress, I think does a couple of things. Number one, it dictates how we feel about ourselves and situations. I think, you know, as we go into a situation that's professionally, if we under dress at times, sometimes we feel like we don't belong in that atmosphere or we may undersell who we are or those types of things.
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Brandon Street
And so I think it's important to understand the environment you're going into and ensuring that you dress accordingly to be taken serious as a professional. But also, again, to have that confidence that you need to network or whatever it might be doing you are doing at that event.
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Jerry Ross
I like to say you never get a second opportunity to make that first impression, and we've all been in places where you see someone wearing something and you're like, they must be important. And I think part of it is determining that you feel important when you walk into the closet the night before. I will always lay out clothes the night before.
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Jerry Ross
I have the opportunity to make a first impression. I don't want to wake up in the morning and the iron, you know, blue, whatever junk was in there onto my fresh clothes. I want to make absolutely certain the night before that it's going to be perfect. And I can do everything to set myself up the next day. And I think it's just confidence to when you come in and you put on the best that you have to walk in there, you feel different about yourself.
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Jerry Ross
You walk with a little bit of extra spring in your step and starting in that first moment gives you some confidence that you're going to expand upon once you get into that situation.
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Clara Webster
Yeah, And whenever you're attending any of these, like networking events, interviews, informational interviews, career fairs, you know, whatever kind of professional that might be. I always like to tell people, you know, the only thing an employer should remember about you is, you know, that you look professional and all the different things that you talked about, all your skills and qualifications and all that kind of stuff.
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Clara Webster
You know, you want you want to look professional and make sure that you kind of fit in with that outfit, too.
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Brandon Street
You know, I know I've said this over and over in this podcast, but one of the main things we're trying to do when getting hired is build trust with an employer. And that trust is established initially in that first impression. Right. Because the first thing I, I learn about you is what I see and some of the first things that come out of your mouth do.
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Brandon Street
Right. And so I think, again, it's important to ensure that we're dressed for the occasion, to ensure that people look at and go, I already can trust this person for whatever reason. Right? They they took the time to look good, to come talk to me today. I think that builds trust in employers to know that. And then when you approach them in a professional manner and you know, the first things out of your mouth are professional, I think all of those things are adding up to building this trust, which ultimately is the reason that they hire you, my opinion.
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Jerry Ross
And I think having like I'm going to get a job today outfit, right. Just having that one special outfit that you don't wear anywhere else, that's just your best that you have that you're going to get a job today outfit. It really projects professionalism, confidence and incredible in what you have to say.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah, I love it. Make them remember you by who you are and what you talked about, not by what you are. Right. Like, you know, dressing professionally is huge, hugely important. So let's talk about knowing the dress code, right? We talk about different types of dress, such as formal business, casual and casual. Let's talk about the difference between those and knowing what you should be wearing right there.
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McKinley Hatch
Certain jobs. Right. We talk about this a lot that you maybe don't have to dress super, you know, your tuxedo. Just get a job anyway. Yeah. Claire, talk to us about that a little bit.
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Clara Webster
Yeah, for sure. So within the other three, kind of made different types, formal business, casual and casual, and there really ever shouldn't really be any type of, you know, professional either, like interview or career fair, things like that, where you're showing up in that casual address. This is what I usually recommend for people. You know, you want to show them that you're professional, just like Brandon was saying, you know, kind of build that trust, show them that you're there to, you know, be the best either employee or, you know, whatever it may be for that situation.
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Clara Webster
So, yeah, casual is typically not one you're going to be wearing to different events. And of course, that's, you know, casual just what you wear every day, shirt and jeans and stuff like that. Right now, business casual, that's the most common type of dress in the workplace. Typically, it can be either like a nice blouse or a button up shirt, either slacks or like a skirt on bottom.
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Clara Webster
Typically, sometimes even a dress that's typically kind of that business casual that you see. And then the formal that's typically pretty like, I guess, I guess boring colors. You could, you know, typically like black navy, dark gray. You know, typically like there's not a lot of variation going on there. It's very professional, typically a suit for, you know, males or females typically a tie, you know, for males.
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Clara Webster
And then for females typically like a blazer and then either like a knee length skirt or slacks on bottom. And that's like your that's like Jerry was saying that's, you know, I'm going to go get a job today. That should be a more formal type outfit. But there are some situations where business casual is also appropriate. Like, for example, one of my first jobs when I was a student worker here on campus was as a custodian.
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Clara Webster
And if I showed up to that interview in a formal, you know, in a whole like blazer and, you know, skirt and everything, looking really, you know, super professional, it might kind of send the wrong impression. And so, like in that kind of situation, business casual would actually be more appropriate. And so it's important, you know, as you're in these different situations, just to know kind of the differences between formal business casual and casual and know when the best place to use those are.
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Brandon Street
I think you bring up a good point because I when I was younger in my my career, I met with a employer, they hire truck drivers. And he told me if someone comes in in a suit that I'm not hiring them. You know, I want people to be ready to work. And so it's right to know your industry, know the environment.
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Brandon Street
If you've done your your homework upfront, hopefully you'll know those things. But some of our blue collar jobs, they don't want you to be in a suit. They want you to be ready to work. If I hired you now and you can go get in the truck now, that doesn't mean that we dress Supercuts. I still say dress one step above what you would.
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Brandon Street
You know what you'd wear on the job, but but at the same time, know your industry. Don't overdress on some occasions, but don't under dress either in a professional setting.
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Jerry Ross
You know, like a truck driver could show up to an interview in a polo. Right. Right. And if you're one step above that, if you're expected to work every day in a polo, you show up. But with buttons the whole way down or more of a semi, you know, business casual outfit for ladies. Like I always think one step above is where you need to be.
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Jerry Ross
So gauge the room before you get there and elevate your dress by one step prior to getting there.
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McKinley Hatch
Now, what about dressing for, let's say, of a Zoom interview or some online interview or just other online interactions? Doesn't necessarily be an interview. Maybe you do an informational interview, kind of that. What would you wear in that case?
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Brandon Street
You know, things have changed a lot, even with COVID. I mean, we had obviously some of these video interviews, but they weren't as extensive or prevalent as they are now. And I think, you know, I still coach individuals that when you're interviewing over Zoom, it'd be I would give the same advice I would to someone interviewing in person, ensure that you dress, you know, in a way that again you're portraying confidence to yourself but also to the employer.
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Brandon Street
You're making that first impression. I know some people said, well, you know, I had the suit coat on up top and pajamas on the bottom, you know, and you can maybe you get away with that and that's fine. But but my point is, is do you at that point feel confident and ready to interview? Do you feel professional and ready to interview?
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Brandon Street
If you do, that's fine. But the point is, is that just put yourself in, you know, the setting to fill those types of things as you go into the interview and leave that good first impression with the employer.
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Clara Webster
And maybe, you know, maybe something happens with like your lighting or know your dog comes in the room and, you know, if you have to stand up and you got pajamas on bottom, you're probably probably not going to get hired.
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Jerry Ross
Your Hawaiian shorts don't fly here?
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Clara Webster
Yeah, exactly.
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McKinley Hatch
That would be terrible. They're like, have a button up shirt and then they have to stand up and its like Spongebob.
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Jerry Ross
Yeah.
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Brandon Street
You're right.
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McKinley Hatch
Awesome. Yeah. Thanks for talking about that. I think that's really good advice is just to act as if you are in person. Right? Right. And it does. Like I love what Jerry mentioned, the confidence like that's your interview outfit, you know, before, whether it's in-person or not, like you, it helps, you know, with confidence and everything as well and help you get into that mode.
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Brandon Street
We know that dress affects the way we think and behave. And when we worked remotely for work, I probably was three or four months that we were working maybe as longer. I don't recall that there was an extensive period of time. We're working from home. I would get up in the morning and I would get dressed as if I was going to work.
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Brandon Street
I did not work in shorts and things like that because I just didn't feel productive. I didn't feel like I was in a work setting at those points. So that's just personal to me. But I just felt like that it did affect the way that I felt about myself and the way I approached my work.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah, you know, a lot of people have that same feeling as well.
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Jerry Ross
I was struggling with productivity, working from home during COVID, and I intentionally changed my dress code because I felt more productive when I'm formally wearing what I would have been when I was in the office. It just got into my internal psychology a little bit and I was more productive when I did that. And I think there's a lot that goes into that process.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah. Speaking of working from home with, you know, COVID 19 and things, let's talk about shaking hands, you know, as you're going to interviews and meeting and greeting people. How do we navigate handshaking in the post-COVID world? What does that look like right now?
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Brandon Street
It's a great question and it gets a little bit tricky. But I think it's important, as you know, as as your approach is to understand that people are on different levels here. There are still people who do not want to shake hands. I think that we've returned to normal somewhat with with most people, but there are still people there.
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Brandon Street
And you need to be cognizant of of those individuals and respectful of those individuals. And so when you're approaching individuals in an interview or at a professional setting, I usually suggest, you know, kind of take your cues from what they're doing. If they reach their hand out and you're comfortable, shake their hand. If they reach their hand out, you're not comfortable.
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Brandon Street
Just, you know, just explain to them very quickly say, you know, I'm not shaking hands yet at this point. But but it's really nice to meet you and make sure you follow that up so they don't feel uncomfortable of what they did to you know what I mean? And just let them know you're grateful for the opportunity and those type of things.
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Brandon Street
But but the same goes for the other side table. If they don't want to shake hands, don't take offense by that just to just make sure that they feel comfortable. Just get follow up. It's nice to meet you. Thank you so much for having me today. You know, and and play that play that off naturally. But take cues from them, whether they keep their hand on their side or whether they extend their hand.
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Brandon Street
That's a great way to understand, one, what they'll be doing.
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Clara Webster
Yeah. And I tell people, you know, definitely, yeah, try to read the room and take cues, but you know, even if like, well, here's a story that I have, for example. So during COVID, I wouldn't had an interview and I walked in and I thought I, you know, I was like, I think these people want, you know, shake my hand.
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Clara Webster
It's good as the person getting interviewed to try and initiate that. And so I went up to the employer to, like, shake their hand and they went, actually, can you do elbows, please? You know, they stuck out his elbow to me and I and we did that. And I was so embarrassed and I was like, I probably just lost the job because of that.
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Clara Webster
You know, it started, you know, get into that. But anyway but, you know, I ended up getting that job. And and so I always tell people, you know, even if, you know, you try and read the room and maybe get the wrong cue, it's better to be the person that would, you know, like if you're a student, it's better to be the person, you know, kind of initiating that professional handshake and then to, you know, to have them go, actually they're mind rather than kind of doing nothing at all sometimes to us and, and, and just like Brandon said, don't take a personal threat here.
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Clara Webster
Don't freak out like I did. And they go, my gosh, I lost the job or anything like that. It's just a weird, you know, thing from COVID now. But usually I tell people, you know, try to read the room and if you feel like they would, you know, be comfortable, go ahead and initiate that just because it looks professional.
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Clara Webster
And, you know, most employers are going to appreciate that you did initiate it rather than, you know, think, they didn't, you know, kind of initiate that handshake sometimes. And so anyway, so I always like to share that experience. So people feel more comfortable with kind of initiating that first handshake.
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Jerry Ross
I have an outgoing, energetic personality and I'll just ask. Right. And I feel like sometimes we can ask and kind of get what are the different comfort levels in the room. And I also feel like that sets me up for things that may further happen during those conversations. And I'll just ask also, we haven't touched on this, but there's some cultural differences, too.
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Jerry Ross
There's people that don't want a handshake culturally and different things. And I've been on a hiring panel where after someone left, they talked about the dress. They were less conservative and than they wanted them to be. And down to feet is an interesting thing with making sure that toes are covered. Other cultures do different things. There are some things in there about seeing the bottom of feet and different cultures to wear.
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Jerry Ross
When we're talking about these, we want the both sides of the interview and the interviewee to be as comfortable as they can be, making sure that you're representing all cultures. Your interview day is not the day to test your boundaries. True.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah. Let's. Let's not do that. Looks great. We've been talking about nonverbal communication with handshakes. Let's talk about other nonverbal cues and how those impact first impressions.
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Brandon Street
Well, we know the majority of our communication comes from nonverbals. We do. And and so it's important to again, ensure, as you're preparing for interviews and meeting with professionals, that you understand what your typical nonverbals are and what you're sending with those nonverbals. If you tend to be an arm folder, right, at times people can interpret that as being closed off or being cold.
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Brandon Street
And if you happen to be a foot tapper, people can interpret that as being nervous or uncomfortable being around them, those types of things. So you need to be aware of your own cues, but also practice cues that you want to display confidence in, and that that means eye contact, that means smiling, that means controlled voice patterns. There's a lot to those.
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Brandon Street
That means sitting up and displaying confidence that way, right. And using your hands when you talk yet not over extensively. So there's there's all those things that can display confidence but also give you confidence. I mean, we know the research that's been done on this. Amy Cuddy did research on on this kind of spatial nonverbal communication and how having taking a bigger space, even by setting up in our chest broad things like that, we display a little bit more confidence and fill that right as as we speak to people.
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Jerry Ross
I love eye contact. Right. And I can read a lot from a person from an interview side off of early on in the meeting, I will gauge where their eyes go to create and recall, and then later on I can do the same thing. But if someone is giving me great eye contact during our conversation, I feel a better connection and I'm not looking and trying to read cues as much as I am just trying to make a connection and figure out whether they can help what we need or can we help what they need.
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Jerry Ross
And I'm really big on eye contact and making sure that eyes aren't wandering all over the room. I think that's one of the tips I heavily give when we're talking to people about interview preparation is Look at me, don't be creepy. But look at me right as we're talking because they're so nervous and they're trying to get someone to say yes.
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Jerry Ross
But looking at them, I think is a strong thing that we can do to improve that contact.
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McKinley Hatch
How much is too much eye contact? No, I'm just kidding.
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Brandon Street
Sharing content does depend, and I think you can feel it, too. Sometimes when you're looking at somebody, you're like, Why am I not blinking? Why am I not looking away? What's wrong with me? You know? So I think we can fill that naturally a little bit too.
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Clara Webster
If your eyeballs are starting to burn, it's too much eye contact trying because.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate to bring this up because it's so sad that we even have to talk about this non just personal hygiene and grooming, you know, like preparation. I know we've all had what we call, I don't know, horror stories of like where we're interviewing people and it's like, wow, I'm surprised that they would hear her at an interview like this.
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McKinley Hatch
But it's we do need to talk about it is something. So let's talk about personal hygiene and and you know preparing for an interview, making sure your hair is brushed and comb through and all of that.
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Clara Webster
Yeah. I mean, I always just tell people, you know, kind of same thing that I said before, You don't want the employer to, you know, or sorry, you only want the employer to remember, you know, what you had to say and the things that you can bring to their company and those types of things. Right. You don't want them to walk away, you know, thinking about anything related to your outfit or, you know, any of your personal grooming or anything like that.
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Clara Webster
So just make sure that you just, you know, look well maintain, you know, that your hair's done and make sure your nails are trimmed, that you're again, you know, that your outfit looks good. And and also, you know, make sure hygiene wise, you know, it's sometimes uncomfortable to talk about, but, you know, make sure that your teeth are brushed or that you've had a mint, you know, before you go in there and make sure you've got a good, appropriate personal scent.
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Clara Webster
And that can go either way. Right. You know, make sure that you you smell nice, but also, you know, make sure you're not, like, overpowering, you know, with your perfume or cologne or anything like that. Just again, you know, you don't want anything to be a distraction and taking away from what you can bring to the employer.
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Jerry Ross
And I think this this is your first opportunity to describe how you're going to be every day. So if you are unorganized, disheveled, dirty nails, unkempt teeth or whatever we want to talk about, this is the best they're going to get. So they understand if you're not kept that day, there are going to be many days where you're going to be worse than what you did today because they think this is going to be the best that you have to offer.
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah, it's super true. Yeah thanks. There was one time we were doing an interview, and I'm not in this job in a past job for, like, student worker roles and everything. And we're all sitting there interviewing and we had we could smell their breath from across the room and like, we left to go get lunch and come back.
00;19;56;28 - 00;20;08;13
McKinley Hatch
And the room still smelled like that for like hours. And it was just like, yeah, making sure that you're, you know, doing that brush teeth have a mint. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
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Clara Webster
Because now, unfortunately, that's all you remember about that.
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Clara Webster
Interviewer Right.
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McKinley Hatch
Still to this day.
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Clara Webster
Yeah. Instead of what they could give to your company. So.
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McKinley Hatch
Exactly. Okay, let's talk about, we'll wrap it up on just individual, style and kind of being true to yourself and your personal style while also trying to understand the company maybe you're interviewing for and they're different, you know, expectations and whatnot.
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Brandon Street
Yeah, I think this is an important topic because I've I've sat with students before who said, you know, I kind of told them and coached them how to dress and things like that, perhaps jewelry in some regard, piercings, things like that, tattoos, lots of different things we've had conversations about. And I've had students I mean, they've literally said to me, well, if they don't like me for who I am, you know what I mean?
00;21;03;04 - 00;21;26;24
Brandon Street
And I'm like, well, I mean, we need to take that into consideration. If you're if you're working for an employer and you want to be able portray yourself in a certain way, then maybe don't apply to that employer. Right? Like find an employer who would appreciate you for who you are. And I do think that's important. But at the same time, if you do want to work for that company, we need to make some adjustments to make sure that we we're making that impression.
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Brandon Street
We want to that employer. Right. Some employers are more conservative. I tell I coach people, you know, approach an employer as if they're very conservative because most are because they're making hiring decisions. Right. So they are conservative in nature at that point, even if their nature isn't to be that right. And so approach that in a way that that they are approaching in that conservative manner.
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Brandon Street
And so, yeah, maybe take a piercing out, maybe cover up some tattoos initially and things like that or again, find an employer that fits who you are, who you know would appreciate you for who you are. But I think our authenticity doesn't have to change by doing those things either, though. When we talk to people, we can still be ourselves, not somebody else as we interview and and we can be genuine in our answers and things.
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Jerry Ross
And I think recruiters generally are more conservative. So there's like a little bit of a shift happening right now where applicants applying for jobs want to be accepted as who they are. But you have to also understand recruiters are conservative. Now, if you take something out or cover something up on your interview day, are you still the exact same person?
00;22;31;09 - 00;22;56;29
Jerry Ross
You still have the exact same skills and qualifications that you had, but you don't have something showing. And when you show up to work, if you have that thing, you're still the same person. But you lost an opportunity to make an interaction with a conservative person. So there's definitely different ways to view this, right? You want them to hire who you are as a person, but also you want to make sure that you're also not making them uncomfortable, not putting them into a spot.
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Jerry Ross
And kind of it's interesting how this is going to be in the next few years with.
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Brandon Street
Yeah.
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Jerry Ross
That first impression.
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McKinley Hatch
I think it ultimately comes down to like bias and unfair judgment, right? Like a lot you had said, you know, recruiters, maybe you're the same person, you're covering it up, maybe they don't want to see that. But it's just so we all have that. We all have personal bias. We all have, you know, unfortunately, judgment that is uncontrolled a lot of the time.
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McKinley Hatch
And we're all working on that. Right. Like first impression, bam, you're thinking maybe, you know, some certain things about them with the way they choose to, you know, style themselves or whatever, pop to avoid that. You know, we recommend to let them judge you based on your characteristics and your qualifications rather than, you know, what you're wearing. Maybe what earrings you have in or whatever that looks like, Right?
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Brandon Street
Yeah. And I don't know if we'll always be able to control those biases because part of being human means that we're trying to protect ourselves and when as an employer, we're trying to protect our business, you know? And so some of those biases come in as a as a protection, right. A natural protection for us. And so, again, as as a job seeker, we just need to understand that's the viewpoint that they're taking as we approach them that again, we don't need to change ourselves.
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Brandon Street
We're not defined by, you know, what we're wearing or things like that. We're defined by who we are. And so we want to make that impression of who we are and and then settle into our job. Otherwise, right?
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McKinley Hatch
Yeah. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. Thanks, listeners for tuning in to Career Cafe. Subscribe and share our podcast with your friends and other T birds and connect with us on social media at SUU Career Center and through our website, SUU.edu/CareerCenter and tune in next week for our episode. On Navigating the Interview Arena, the do's and Don'ts, of online etiquette and mastering the About Me question.
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McKinley Hatch
In an interview. So, Clara, are you going to close us off today with the dad joke?
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Clara Webster
Yes. People think that being a waiter isn't a respectable job, but hey, it puts food on the table.
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Jerry Ross
It sure does.
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Brandon Street
Wow, that's my favorite.
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McKinley Hatch
Awesome. Tune in next week. Thanks.